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on the people $250,000 and up to what they were under bill clinton. 600,000 new businesses were started, god forbid that should happen again. but the groundhog day element of this stephanie, is this. last year at this time, the president wanted to extent the payroll tax cut. the republicans stamped their feet and wanted tax cut for the wealthy. and the president stood his ground and they undid this by unanimous consent right before christmas. that's what is going to happen this time. >> stephanie: again, they say the president is not being clear. >> obama: just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that presents rates going up for folks at the top 2%. >> he wasn't clear enough. he didn't say which country. [ laughter ] >> he has to be much more precise. >> stephanie: jay carney excooed it again. >> a deal by republicans that rates on the top 2% the wealthiest americans, have to rise. there is no deal without that acknowledgment, and without a concrete mathematically sound proposal. >> stephanie: oh my god, i'm reading the chyron right now. the white house has on
we could do is go over the fiscal cliff. we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight -- i've said this a few times -- republicans better be careful. they're not going down your road and the democrats aren't going down your road. you have middle class tax cuts for the democrats and it sometimes sounds to me as an old reagan conservative that the republicans better watch themselves because sometimes it sounds like they are kind of defending rich people. that's their whole mantra, just defending rich people. and i think that's not where they should be. >> i would agree. if i were politically advising the republicans, which i'm certainly not, i
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